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  1. Сюну са изследвани като част от Източните степи и Монголия. Заключенията са, че имат както западноевразийски, така и източноевразийски гени. Това е защото движението по степите е било първо от запад на изток през Бронза, докато окончателно се обръща от изток на запад през Желязото и ранното Средновековие. A dynamic 6,000-year genetic history of Eurasia’s Eastern Steppe The Eastern Eurasian Steppe was home to historic empires of nomadic pastoralists, including the Xiongnu and the Mongols. However, little is known about the region’s population history. Here we reveal its dynamic genetic history by analyzing new genome-wide data for 214 ancient individuals spanning 6,000 years. We identify a pastoralist expansion into Mongolia ca. 3000 BCE, and by the Late Bronze Age, Mongolian populations were biogeographically structured into three distinct groups, all practicing dairy pastoralism regardless of ancestry. The Xiongnu emerged from the mixing of these populations and those from surrounding regions. By comparison, the Mongols exhibit much higher Eastern Eurasian ancestry, resembling present-day Mongolic-speaking populations. Our results illuminate the complex interplay between genetic, sociopolitical, and cultural changes on the Eastern Steppe. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.25.008078v1 Сюну се спрягат като наследници на източните скити и предшественици на хуните: Moreover, our findings confirmed that the Xiongnu had a strongly admixed mitochondrial and Y-chromosome gene pools and revealed a significant western component in the Xiongnu group studied. Using a fine-scale approach (haplotype instead of haplogroup-level information), we propose Scytho-Siberians as ancestors of the Xiongnu and Huns as their descendants. Това сме го обсъждали вече на ДНК форума: http://dnagenealogy-bg.org/mybb/showthread.php?tid=748&page=5
  2. Да, връзката е с азиатските, за тях също има друго генетично изследване.
  3. Разбира се, при поданиците не са всички, но при държавите май няма изключение. Скоро ще разберем и за прабългарите какви са били генетично, само да не са като в предишното от 10 в и християнския период.
  4. Вече няколко пъти давах генетичните изследвания, които ясно доказват, че част от индивидите в елитните гробове са с чист източноазиатски произход - както по групи, така и аутозомно. Има и някои със смесен, а простолюдието е обикновено с местен европейски. Това за хуни, авари и маджари: Hun, Avar and conquering Hungarian nomadic groups arrived into the Carpathian Basin from the Eurasian Steppes and significantly influenced its political and ethnical landscape. In order to shed light on the genetic affinity of above groups we have determined Y chromosomal haplogroups and autosomal loci, from 49 individuals, supposed to represent military leaders. Haplogroups from the Hun-age are consistent with Xiongnu ancestry of European Huns. Most of the Avar-age individuals carry east Eurasian Y haplogroups typical for modern north-eastern Siberian and Buryat populations and their autosomal loci indicate mostly unmixed Asian characteristics. In contrast the conquering Hungarians seem to be a recently assembled population incorporating pure European, Asian and admixed components. Their heterogeneous paternal and maternal lineages indicate similar phylogeographic origin of males and females, derived from Central-Inner Asian and European Pontic Steppe sources. Composition of conquering Hungarian paternal lineages is very similar to that of Baskhirs, supporting historical sources that report identity of the two groups. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/597997v1 а това за хазари: Over millennia, steppe nomadic tribes raided and sometimes overran settled Eurasian civilizations. Most polities formed by steppe nomads were ephemeral, making it difficult to ascertain their genetic roots or what present-day populations, if any, have descended from them. Exceptionally, the Khazar Khaganate controlled the trade artery between the Black and Caspian Seas in VIII-IX centuries, acting as one of the major conduits between East and West. However, the genetic identity of the ruling elite within the polyglot and polyethnic Khaganate has been a much-debated mystery; a controversial hypothesis posits that post-conversion to Judaism the Khazars gave rise to modern Ashkenazim. We analyzed whole-genome sequences of eight men and one woman buried within the distinctive kurgans of the Khazar upper (warrior) class. After comparing them with reference panels of present-day Eurasian and Iron Age populations, we found that the Khazar political organization relied on a polyethnic elite. It was predominantly descended from Central Asian tribes but incorporated genetic admixture from populations conquered by Khazars. Thus, the Khazar ruling class was likely relatively small and able to maintain a genetic identity distinct from their subjugated populations over the course of centuries. Yet, men of mixed ancestry could also rise into the warrior class, possibly providing troop numbers necessary to maintain control of their large territory. However, when the Khaganate collapsed it left few persistent genetic traces in Europe. Our data confirm the Turkic roots of the Khazars, but also highlight their ethnic diversity and some integration of conquered populations. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/...5.876912v1 Относно езика всичко си остава на етап спекулации по причина, че не са запазени никакви писмени извори. Разните там руни не може да се докаже кой и даже кога ги е драскал, дали не са даже съвременни фалшификации.
  5. При всички държави, основани от степняци преди това като хуни, авари и хазари елита се различава от масата и е само наскоро дошъл някъде от източноазиатските степи. Не са имали време още да се смесят генетично, а предполагам и езиково. Не говорим за българи след 9 век, а за най-ранните, истинските "прабългари".

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